[SPLIT]A comparison between SUMo and UCheck

[Gil-s]

Bonjour,
Je suis un EX-utilisateur (lifetime licence et je pouvais modifier l'?tat d'une version d'un logiciel de beta ? non-beta et inversement) de feu-SUmo (snif). Je fais partie de la division ing?nierie du poste de travail dans un rectorat d'acad?mie et je m'appuyais beaucoup sur SUMo pour tracer les mises ? jour des logiciels de mon parc afin de les mettre ? jour sur mon parc de PC au travers de notre outils de d?ploiement, suis en train de tester la version Technicien de UCheck :
L'interface me plait bien, la philosophie du logiciel aussi.
J'ai fait un scan en Admin dans ma
Cependant, dans l'onglet 'Install?s' si je trie sur la colonne 'Derni?re' certains logiciels apparaissent surlign?s alors que le valeurs de de 'Version' et 'Derni?re' sont identiques et  je ne comprends pas pourquoi..
Certains des logiciels install?s ont des versions sup?rieures ? la version 'latest', il ne doivent pas ?tre ? jour dans la base de donn?e UCheck, et certains logiciels install?s on la m?me version que ldans la colonne 'Latest' mais diff?rent d'un ou deux caract?res.

Bien cordialement

Hello all,
I am an EX user (lifetime license and I could change the status of a software version from beta to non-beta and vice versa) of the late SUMo (snif). I'm part of the workstation engineering department of a local education authority and have relied heavily on SUMo to keep track of software updates in my fleet and to deploy them to my PC fleet using our deployment tools. I'm currently testing the technician version of UCheck:
I like the interface and the software philosophy.
I've run an Admin scan on my PC.
However, in the 'Installed' tab, when I sort on the 'Last' column, some software is highlighted while the 'Version' and 'Last' values are identical and I don't understand why.
Some of the installed software have versions higher than the 'Latest' version, they must not be up-to-date in the UCheck database, and some installed software have the same version as the one in the 'Latest' column, but differ by one or two characters.

Best regards

[Curson]

Hi Gil-s,

Welcome to Adlice.com Forum.
There is cleary some issue here.

Please attach a UCheck scan full report with your next reply.

- Open UCheck
- Click on the "History and Settings > "History" buttons
- Open the first report, export it and attach it with your next reply as attachment

Regards.

[Gil-s]

Hello,
What concerns me most in this report.
1 - LibreOffice is 7.5.6.2 seen as outdated when it is the latest "Stable" version (version 7.6.2 is the latest "Fresh" version) on the LibreOffice website. Screenshot 1_To_Update_2023-11-06.png.

2 - Mozilla Firefox ESR (x64 en) (64 bits), version 115.4.0 is classified as gray in the installed software when it is in fact the latest version. Screenshot 2_Installed_2023-11-06.png.

3 - There are a large number of programs marked in gray that have the same version in both the "Version" and "Latest" columns. I don't understand what this means. Screenshot 3_Installed_Grey_2023-11-06.png.

I hope it's clear to you what I mean. UCheck is new to me. and I've just quit SUMo (which didn't distinguish between LibreOffice Stable and Fresh either).

Sincerely

[lmacri]

... However, in the 'Installed' tab, when I sort on the 'Last' column, some software is highlighted while the 'Version' and 'Last' values are identical and I don't understand why.
Some of the installed software have versions higher than the 'Latest' version, they must not be up-to-date in the UCheck database, and some installed software have the same version as the one in the 'Latest' column, but differ by one or two characters....

Hi Gil-s:

There are four different categories of programs shown on the Installed tab of UCheck - Compatible (blue highlight), Portable (purple highlight), Community (grey highlight) and Unsupported (no highlight). See my 04-Nov-2023 post # 787 in the topic UCheck - Update your Software in 2 Clicks in the Wilders Security forum where I gave a brief description of each of these categories.  If I hover my mouse over a program highlighted in grey, like the Apple Mobile Device Support program shown in my attached image, for example, the tool tip will say "Community".

Unlike SUMo, the colours used on the Installed tab of UCheck do not indicate whether the program is up-to-date or not.  In UCheck you must look at the STATUS column to see if it is "Outdated" or "Latest (up-to-date).  My attached image is sorted by STATUS and shows UCheck found available updates for 5 of my Community programs (i.e., grey highlight with STATUS = "Outdated").
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If the version numbers in the VERSION (the version on your computer) and LATEST (the latest available version offered by the developer) columns are identical then you have the latest available version and the STATUS should be "Latest" to indicate the program is up-to-date.

If the version number in the VERSION column is lower than the version in the LATEST column then your software needs to be updated and the STATUS should be "Outdated".

If the version number in the VERSION column is higher than the version in the LATEST column then you are correct when you say that "Some of the installed software have versions higher than the 'Latest' version, they must not be up-to-date in the UCheck database".  I find that UCheck is currently much slower than SUMo in detecting when a new software version is released for Compatible (blue) programs, but in part that is because UCheck uses automated bots that crawl the software developer's website to look for documentation about new releases for Compatible programs, which can be very slow, while SUMo always based the latest available version on telemetry data collected from the wider SUMo community.

I also find that UCheck can be slower (and less accurate) than SUMo was at finding new releases for a Community (grey) programs, but that might be because UCheck currently has a smaller number of users feeding telemetry data back to the UCheck server for analysis, so hopefully this will improve over time.

If you find all of this confusing then don't worry - so do most ex-SUMo users.
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3570 * Firefox v119.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23090.2008-1.1.23100.2009 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.5.293-1.0.2181 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * 64-bit UCheck Free Portable v5.0.4.0 * QuickInstaller BETA v0.2.8708.37045

[Curson]

Hi Gil-s, lmacri,

lmacri answer covered most of your questions (thanks, lmacri  ).
I would like to add that UCheck indeed still has issue differentiating between ESR and stable versions. It will be hopefully improved in the future.

Regards.

[Gil-s]

Hi Imacri, Curson,

Thanks for all this information, it's much clearer now.
I'm going to get used to using this new software, I need to have fresh information on new software releases. I've got a fairly large fleet of computers and I need to update my deployment tools regularly for the most-used  software.
Thank you for your help.
Best regards

[Curson]

Hi Gil-s,

You are very welcome.
We are in an active development phase these weeks; things are likely to change a bit.

Regards.

[Gil-s]

Hello,
I now have a technician's license and I wanted to test how it works at my workplace behind a proxy (anonymous like http://proxy.xxx.xx:3128). My problem is that the "Community list" counter on the Dashboard" tab is at 0 whereas the "Available for install" counter is at 257. Is the proxy configuration taken into account when connecting to the Community" server?
At home, it works very well and I have a four-digit "Community list" counter.

Best regards.

[Curson]

Hi Gil-s,

At least it should.
Could you please run a new scan with proxy then attach the following file with your next reply ?

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C:\ProgramData\UCheck\Debug\UCheck_debug.log
Regards.

[Gil-s]

Hello,
Sorry it took me a while to reply, but I work from home on Mondays and Tuesdays.
By the way, at home, under my work vpn, the "Community list" goes down well.
I attach the file "UCheck_debug.log".
Regards

[Curson]

Hi Gil-s,

Thanks for your feedback.
We are currently investigating this issue.

Regards.

[Gil-s]

Hello,

Just a note to let you know that the new version 5.0.5.0 fixes my proxy problem for the "Community list".

Thanks

Regards

[Curson]

Hi Gil-s,

You are welcome.
Thanks for your feedback.

Regards.