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November 08, 2023, 04:17:17 PM

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Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« on: November 08, 2023, 04:17:17 PM »
UCheck has a community stack. But where can I register new programs / versions or make corrections?

Reply #1November 08, 2023, 04:55:53 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2023, 04:55:53 PM »
Hi TheQuestionmark,

None at the moment. We are submerged by requests already.
We plan to use a Repository (like Github) to allow users to report bugs and vote for future features.
I will update this post when it will be available.

Regards.

Reply #2November 08, 2023, 05:17:15 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2023, 05:17:15 PM »
As I understand the question, it's not about bugs or features but about the ability to add software/software versions to the "community list" that UCheck will detect updates for.

I just installed UCheck myself and signed up for the Premium plan, and I was gonna ask that exact same question.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is that there is a "community list", but the community cannot add to this list or even suggest additions to this list?

Then why call it a "community list" in the first place, if the community cannot contribute?

I was half thinking "Never mind what it doesn't support, I can just add what I need it to support to the community list" when I installed UCheck. You're saying I was wrong?

In my opinion, a software updater needs to support as much software as possible, and a good way of achieving that would probably be through all of us who use all that software, eg the community, or no?

Reply #3November 08, 2023, 06:01:04 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2023, 06:01:04 PM »
Hi chjohans,

It's not really a list, it's a dynamically database created by querying installed application and version number when running UCheck.
Dynamic Updates entries are created automatically, with all the risks that this involves (error when reading version info, reporting beta updates).

When an user report an error with a particular software (aka Dynamic Update module is wrong), we add it to the list of "Supported Updates".

Please see : Introducing: Community Updates for UCheck

Reporting issues on forum posts is less than ideal (duplicates, no issue template, etc), that's why we will open some sort of bug tracker where everyone feedback will be listened to.

Regards.

Reply #4November 08, 2023, 08:40:11 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2023, 08:40:11 PM »
Nice would also to have a source for new versions.
For example: I downloaded / searched for the following programs, but couldn't get / find a new version. At least the Downloadlocation would be nice. I think the community is willing to help.

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Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Tools for Office Runtime (x64) (64-bit), version 10.0.60910
  [+] Available Version        : 10.0.60915

Mozilla Maintenance Service (64-bit), version 107.0
  [+] Available Version        : 2023.10 <-- Seems to be completely wrong)

Apple Mobile Device Support (64-bit), version 16.0.0.30
  [+] Available Version        : 17.0.0.24

Microsoft Visual Studio Installer (64-bit), version 3.7.2181.36443
  [+] Available Version        : 3.8.2112.61926

gs_x64 (64-bit), version 10.01.1
  [+] Available Version        : 10.02.0 <-- Already installed

Microsoft ODBC Driver 17 for SQL Server (64-bit), version 17.7.2.1
  [+] Available Version        : 18.3.2.1

vs_CoreEditorFonts (32-bit), version 17.6.33605
  [+] Available Version        : 17.7.40001

Edit: Could you please fix the font of the Code-Block here in the forum. It looks terrible.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2023, 08:44:10 PM by TheQuestionmark »

Reply #5November 09, 2023, 10:26:20 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2023, 10:26:20 PM »
Thanks for the explanation @Cusron, that sounds like a good idea, and is something along the lines of what SUMo was successfully doing. My bad then, I thought it was a "Community Contributed" list/database that is manually updated somehow, but what it is seems better. Automated collection seems like a good idea.

Speaking of collecting data, do you have somewhere on your website an explanation of what information UCheck collects from its installed PC and what that information is used for? Maybe adding that to the explanation you link to above is a good idea?

Reply #6November 10, 2023, 04:15:32 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2023, 04:15:32 PM »
Hi,
Quote from: TheQuestionmark
At least the Downloadlocation would be nice. I think the community is willing to help.
I don't doubt it.
Unfortunately, this information is often missing.

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Could you please fix the font of the Code-Block here in the forum. It looks terrible.
I will transmit your request to our forum Admin.

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Speaking of collecting data, do you have somewhere on your website an explanation of what information UCheck collects from its installed PC and what that information is used for?
It's in the EULA
In a less terse way, the following elements are communicated to Adlice servers when scanning :
  • Configuration options
  • List of installed application (applications name and version information)
That's all.
I will make sure to update the blog post accordingly.

Regards.

Reply #7November 10, 2023, 06:51:11 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2023, 06:51:11 PM »
Ey, the question about collecting data was not posted by me. It was chjohans.

I think it's to easy only collect version numbers from users scan and smash it into a database.
For example (and that's presumably the most reason) a new version could be, because users are using betas they are not public and / or not on the official download location. It should be possible to difference at least offical and beta. Perhaps also alpha, preview, dev-build and so on. It's frustrating, if you want to update the system, but you can't.

I also think to get reliable results its unavoidable to correct results by hand. But I also understand, that this is hard work and could not be do completely by Adlice. So an area for registered users could be helpful. In this area users could correct versions, added donload locations or other informations. To prevent trolls and manipulations, the service should only be available for users they are using a paid version of UCheck. (12$/Year is anyway a symbolic price.) As "Thank you" for helping and motivating users can earn additional months for free or get a title / award in the forum or named in the credits and so on.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2023, 06:53:27 PM by TheQuestionmark »

Reply #8November 11, 2023, 10:02:15 AM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2023, 10:02:15 AM »
Thanks for being transparent about data collection! :)

Reply #9November 11, 2023, 07:24:19 PM

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Re: Where can I register new programs/versions for community stack?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2023, 07:24:19 PM »
Hi,

Quote from: heQuestionmark
Ey, the question about collecting data was not posted by me. It was chjohans.
Sorry about this.

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a new version could be, because users are using betas they are not public and / or not on the official download location. It should be possible to difference at least offical and beta.
Yes, we strive to dynamically detect if the installed software on a user system is stable or not. But editors don't make this easy.
Hence your last comment :

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I also think to get reliable results its unavoidable to correct results by hand. But I also understand, that this is hard work and could not be do completely by Adlice. So an area for registered users could be helpful. In this area users could correct versions, added download locations or other informations. To prevent trolls and manipulations, the service should only be available for users they are using a paid version of UCheck.
In the case of a Community Rules not working as intended, we indeed will correct results by hand (hence, transforming it into a "Supported Update"). Some very involved members could help us doing this, indead.
Your suggestions are very interesting and I will make sure to bring them up to the Team.

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Thanks for being transparent about data collection! :)
You are very welcome.

Regards.