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Software feedback => UCheck => Topic started by: mrhappy1525 on December 17, 2023, 09:51:23 PM
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Hi
I have the most up to date version of MS Edge.
Screen shot attached
I have attached the ucheck report.
************************* Updates *************************
Microsoft Edge (32-bit), version 120.0.2210.77
- Available Version : 121.0.2277.4
- Wow6432 : Yes
- Portable : No
- update_location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application
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Microsoft Edge (32 bits), version 120.0.2210.77
- Uninstall : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Microsoft Edge
- Location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-relnote-stable-channel
Version 120.0.2210.77: December 14, 2023
Can ucheck realise I have the latest version and not suggest a version I cannot get.
Thanks.
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Hi mrhappy1525,
Thanls for your feedback and welcome to Adlice.com Forum.
A new version of UCheck was just released. Can you please try it and check if the issue is still present ?
Regards.
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Hi Curson:
The problem persists in UCheck v5.1.0.0.
I currently have the latest official / stable build for 64-bit MS Edge v120.0.2210.89 (released 20-Dec-2023) that is listed in the release notes at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-relnote-stable-channel, but UCheck v5.1.0.0 is recommending an update to the 32-bit MS Edge BETA v121.0.2277.4 (released 15-Dec-2023) that is listed in the BETA release notes at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-relnote-beta-channel.
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3803 * Firefox v121.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * UCheck Free Portable v5.1.0.0 * QuickInstaller Preview v0.2.8748.37063
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Hi lmacri,
Thanks for your feedback.
Do you think you can report this on UCheck bug tracker ?
Regards.
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... Do you think you can report this on UCheck bug tracker ?
Hi Curson:
User mkvGuy already reported this bug at https://github.com/AdliceSoftware/UCheck/issues/11/. Tigzy's reply a few weeks ago at https://github.com/AdliceSoftware/UCheck/issues/11#issuecomment-1840448591 was "For Edge, it will be fixed once we fully support it. Leaving open for now."
However, I don't see how MS Edge will ever be a "fully supported" Compatible app when this browser is built in to the Win 10 / Win 11 OS (at least here in North America). Users would not normally use UCheck to install, update or uninstall this program (when SUMo reported MS Edge was outdated I would manually update from within the browser at Help and Feedback | About Microsoft Edge) so I assume that MS Edge will always be classified as a Community app in future versions of UCheck.
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3803 * Firefox v121.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * UCheck BETA-1 v5.2.0.0 * QuickInstaller Preview v0.2.8748.37063
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Hi lmacri / Curson
Thanks both for following up on my original post.
I would just say, Microsoft Edge updates are not tied to monthly support updates via Windows Update.
They are release as needed and Microsoft make it difficult to find under the ... > Help and Feedback > About Microsoft Edge page.
Having UCheck report the correct version would be very helpful to all the users of the software, thinking you have out of date software, when you have the latest release version.
Look forward to the issue logged on GitHub getting some attention.
Another related question is Microsoft Edge a 32 or 64 bit app?
It's being flagged as a 32 bit app, I would have expected it to be a 64 bit app.
So two questions I guess, 32 or 64 bit and version number.
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Hi lmacri, mrhappy1525,
Sorry about that.
I didn't notice the issue request.
However, I don't see how MS Edge will ever be a "fully supported" Compatible app when this browser is built in to the Win 10 / Win 11 OS (at least here in North America). Users would not normally use UCheck to install, update or uninstall this program (when SUMo reported MS Edge was outdated I would manually update from within the browser at Help and Feedback | About Microsoft Edge) so I assume that MS Edge will always be classified as a Community app in future versions of UCheck.
You are right.
To be blunt, I think it will stay a "community" application for quite some time. Without a download working link, we can't support it fully.
Another related question is Microsoft Edge a 32 or 64 bit app?
I think it should be a 64-bit process. Would you agree to run some test to confirm this ?
Regards.
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...I think it should be a 64-bit process. Would you agree to run some test to confirm this ?
Hi Curson:
No problem. Post back with instructions if you need anything.
Just note that I currently have the latest MS Edge v120.0.2210.91 (rel. 21-Dec-2023) per the release notes at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-relnote-stable-channel, and when I do a check for updates at edge://settings/help it says I have "Version 120.0.2210.91 (Official build) (64-bit)" (image A).
However, if I go to Task Manager, right-click on any instance of msedge.exe while this browser is open and choose Open File Location (image B), this opens C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\ (image C).
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3803 * Firefox v121.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * UCheck BETA-1 v5.2.0.0 * QuickInstaller Preview v0.2.8748.37063
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It seems UCheck relies on the installation location, which is not reliable. Because you can have 64-bit-programs installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\ and 32-bit in C:\Program Files\ and vice versa. Even the Registry isn't that reliable, identifying 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
Like Imacri, I've a 64-bit Windows 10 with a 64-bit Edge installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\ but UCheck thinks it's 32-bit, but it's definitely running as a 64-bit process. The same goes for the Edge WebView2 Runtime. See screenshot.
As it turns out, Google Chrome does this too. The 64-bit Google Chrome is installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\ and UCheck recognizes it as 32-bit. All 3 programs also have their uninstallation key located in the 32-bit part of the Registry (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\).
Here is a snippet of the scan log:
************************* Updates *************************
Microsoft Edge (32-bit), version 120.0.2210.91
[+] Available Version : 121.0.2277.4
[+] Wow6432 : Yes
[+] Portable : No
[+] update_location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application
************************* Installed *************************
Google Chrome (32 bits), version 120.0.6099.130
[+] Uninstall : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Google Chrome
[+] Location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application
Microsoft Edge (32 bits), version 120.0.2210.91
[+] Uninstall : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Microsoft Edge
[+] Location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application
Microsoft Edge WebView2-Laufzeit (32 bits), version 120.0.2210.77
[+] Uninstall : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Microsoft EdgeWebView
[+] Location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\EdgeWebView\Application
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Hi lmacri, 00Eraser00,
This is indeed probably a bug with the parser, but I'd still like to check this.
Is the dumpbin.exe utility installed on your system ?
Regards.
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... Is the dumpbin.exe utility installed on your system ?
Hi Curson,
What is the expected location of dumpbin.exe?
I've searched C:\Windows, C:\Programs Files, C:\Program Files (x86) and the hidden C:\ProgramData folder, and I can't find a file called dumpbin.exe. Typing dumpbin /? in an elevated command prompt says 'dumpbin' is not recognized. A Google search suggests dumpbin.exe is a Microsoft Visual Studio file and I don't have Visual Studio installed on my Win 10 machine.
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3803 * Firefox v121.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * UCheck BETA-1 v5.2.0.0 * QuickInstaller Preview v0.2.8748.37063
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Unfortunately, I haven't got Visual Studio installed and dreading installing it, can you tell me what information you're looking for? Would this Wrapper GUI http://www.benf.org/other/wumpbin/index.html (http://www.benf.org/other/wumpbin/index.html) for an older version of dumpbin enough to get you this information?
I've got a toolbox of other tools though, maybe one of them would be helpful.
Sysinternals Suite https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/sysinternals/downloads/sysinternals-suite (https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/sysinternals/downloads/sysinternals-suite)
NirSoft Utilities http://www.nirsoft.net/ (http://www.nirsoft.net/)
MiTeC Utilities http://www.nirsoft.net/ (http://www.nirsoft.net/)
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Hi lmacri, 00Eraser00,
What is the expected location of dumpbin.exe?
It's in the PATH.
Sorry about that, I should have made myself clearer.
Sysinternals Suite https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/sysinternals/downloads/sysinternals-suite
Then, how about this :
sigcheck.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe
Regards.
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Hi Curson,
here is the output of sigcheck:
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edge\application\msedge.exe:
Verified: Signed
Signing date: 05:05 21.12.2023
Publisher: Microsoft Corporation
Company: Microsoft Corporation
Description: Microsoft Edge
Product: Microsoft Edge
Prod version: 120.0.2210.91
File version: 120.0.2210.91
MachineType: 64-bit
Binary Version: 120.0.2210.91
Original Name: msedge.exe
Internal Name: msedge_exe
Copyright: Copyright Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Comments: n/a
Entropy: 6.495
Hope that helps. Regards.
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Hi
Here's the output of my sigcheck, format of the output looks a bit different.
Sigcheck v2.90 - File version and signature viewer
Copyright (C) 2004-2022 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe:
Verified: Signed
Signing date: 04:05 21/12/2023
Publisher: Microsoft Corporation
Company: Microsoft Corporation
Description: Microsoft Edge
Product: Microsoft Edge
Prod version: 120.0.2210.91
File version: 120.0.2210.91
MachineType: 64-bit
and the Output of About Microsoft Edge.
Microsoft Edge
Version 120.0.2210.91 (Official build) (64-bit)
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Here's the output of my sigcheck, format of the output looks a bit different.
I used the -a switch for additional version information.
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Hi,
Thanks to everyone for their feedback.
We will change the way these are detected in UCheck next release.
Regards.
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... We will change the way these are detected in UCheck next release.
Hi Curson:
I updated to the latest UCheck Free Portable 64-Bit v5.2.2.0 (released 09-Jan-2024) and can confirm that UCheck is no longer incorrectly recommending BETA / Preview updates for my MS Edge (Stable Release Channel) browser.
My main concern now is that I have the latest MS Edge v120.0.2210.133 (released 11-Jan-2024, see release history at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-relnote-stable-channel) but UCheck currently reports that the LATEST version is the older v120.0.2210.121 (released 05-Jan-2024). Unfortunately, it's not unusual for VERSION to be greater than LATEST for many of my fully "Compatible" applications, and I assume this is because the automated bots that scan documentation on the web looking for new releases of "Compatible" programs can be very slow finding this information.
UCheck v5.2.2 still detects my 64-bit MS Edge browser as a 32-bit application (see attached image, scan log and debug log) but I personally am not overly concerned about this since I would never use UCheck to install / update / uninstall my MS Edge browser. I use Firefox as my default browser and if UCheck eventually reports that MS Edge requires an update I will trigger the update manually in MS Edge at Help and Feedback | About Microsoft Edge. Here's an excerpt from my latest UCheck scan log:
Microsoft Edge (32 bits), version 120.0.2210.133
Uninstall : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Microsoft Edge
Location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3803 * Firefox v121.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.8.311-1.0.2242 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * UCheck Free Portable 64-bit v5.2.2.0
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Hi
From the logs in UCheck
************************* Updates *************************
Microsoft Edge (32-bit), version 120.0.2210.121
- Available Version : 120.0.2210.133
- Wow6432 : Yes
- Portable : No
- update_location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application
I went in to MS and did the update all good.
Just need it to detect it as the 64 Bit Version.
From About Microsoft Edge.
==
Microsoft Edge
Version 120.0.2210.133 (Official build) (64-bit)
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Now disappeared from Pending Updates.
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Hi lmacri, mrhappy1525,
Thanks your both for your feedback.
Unfortunately, it's not unusual for VERSION to be greater than LATEST for many of my fully "Compatible" applications, and I assume this is because the automated bots that scan documentation on the web looking for new releases of "Compatible" programs can be very slow finding this information.
There is two reason for this. Indeed your scrapping bot only check a specific application for update a few times a day. Also, official documentation or changelog update may be delayed a lot.
With bad timing, we can miss an application update for quite some time.
UCheck v5.2.2 still detects my 64-bit MS Edge browser as a 32-bit application (see attached image, scan log and debug log)
The task is indeed still prending. Because of hollidays, we are running late on schedule.
Regards.
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Hi Curson,
just wanting to let you know, the same problem seems to exist with the Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime. UCheck detects it as 32-bit too.
From the log:
Microsoft Edge WebView2-Laufzeit (32-bit), version 120.0.2210.144
[+] Available Version : 121.0.2277.98
[+] Wow6432 : Yes
[+] Portable : No
[+] update_location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\EdgeWebView\Application
Output of sigcheck with -a switch
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft\edgewebview\application\120.0.2210.144\msedgewebview2.exe:
Verified: Signed
Signing date: 08:52 17.01.2024
Publisher: Microsoft Corporation
Company: Microsoft Corporation
Description: Microsoft Edge WebView2
Product: Microsoft Edge WebView2
Prod version: 120.0.2210.144
File version: 120.0.2210.144
MachineType: 64-bit
Binary Version: 120.0.2210.144
Original Name: msedgewebview2.exe
Internal Name: msedgewebview2_exe
Copyright: Copyright Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Comments: n/a
Entropy: 6.531
Regards.
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Hi 00Eraser00,
This will be fixed in UCheck next release.
Regards.
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Hi,
Is this still an issue with UCheck 5.3.0 ?
Thanks,
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... Is this still an issue with UCheck 5.3.0 ?
Hi @Tigzy:
If you are asking if Microsoft Edge and Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime are still reported as 32-bit applications then the answer is Yes.The good news is that UCheck is only recommending updates for stable releases of my Edge browser (i.e., UCheck is not recommending unwanted Insider Preview or other BETA builds).
I'm currently using 64-bit UCheck Free Portable v5.3.0.0 on my Win 10 Pro v22H2 machine.
An image of the Installed tab of my UCheck interface plus scan and debug logs for today (07-Mar-2024) are attached.
Just note that I didn't receive an automated email notification yesterday that this thread had been updated, so I'm not sure if other users subscribed to this thread have read your latest post yet.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4046 * Firefox v123.0.1 * Microsoft Edge v122.0.2365.66 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.24010.12-1.1.24010.10 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.9.314-1.0.2276 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * UCheck Free Portable v5.3.0.0
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Hi Tigzy,
for me, it's the same as Imacri. Even with UCheck 5.3.1.0 it's still reporting as a 32-bit application when in fact it's a 64-bit application. But the update recommendations seem to be fixed.
I as well received no notification that the thread was updated, although I've subscribed to it by checking "Notify me of replies."